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	<title>Comments on: Multiple Vulnerabilities in ALL Synology Products</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Marco Aicardi</title>
		<link>http://isisblogs.poly.edu/2008/04/04/multiple-vulnerabilities-in-all-synology-products/#comment-397</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco Aicardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great, great, great work!

Thank you VERY much!

Marco</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great, great, great work!</p>
<p>Thank you VERY much!</p>
<p>Marco</p>
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		<title>By: Jeroen</title>
		<link>http://isisblogs.poly.edu/2008/04/04/multiple-vulnerabilities-in-all-synology-products/#comment-381</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeroen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dan,

I pretty much came to the same conclusion as you did, but by different (more subjective) means. It is very difficult to implement this much functionality in such a short amount of time. This way I got suspicious and found your post. I do not believe Synology to turn things around any time soon. You did me and many people out there a BIG BIG favour. Thanks!

Speaking on the issue, I have just purchased a Readynas and hope Netgear  (or should I say Infant) have taken more time to make a proper NAS instead of a feature box. Now my question towards you is:

Could you make a wiki (or perhaps just a how-to) that describes to people how you have assessed the Synology. I could get pretty far on my own but the more people involved, the better. And yes, you may poke around my Readynas as much as you like. It needs proper testing before deployment anyway:-). Still, it would be useful for many user to be able to do an audit themselves.
Most reviewers out there don't even scrape the surface of a security audit, praising products like Synology. Now THAT pisses me off:-)

regards,

Jeroen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dan,</p>
<p>I pretty much came to the same conclusion as you did, but by different (more subjective) means. It is very difficult to implement this much functionality in such a short amount of time. This way I got suspicious and found your post. I do not believe Synology to turn things around any time soon. You did me and many people out there a BIG BIG favour. Thanks!</p>
<p>Speaking on the issue, I have just purchased a Readynas and hope Netgear  (or should I say Infant) have taken more time to make a proper NAS instead of a feature box. Now my question towards you is:</p>
<p>Could you make a wiki (or perhaps just a how-to) that describes to people how you have assessed the Synology. I could get pretty far on my own but the more people involved, the better. And yes, you may poke around my Readynas as much as you like. It needs proper testing before deployment anyway:-). Still, it would be useful for many user to be able to do an audit themselves.<br />
Most reviewers out there don&#8217;t even scrape the surface of a security audit, praising products like Synology. Now THAT pisses me off:-)</p>
<p>regards,</p>
<p>Jeroen</p>
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		<title>By: neeeko</title>
		<link>http://isisblogs.poly.edu/2008/04/04/multiple-vulnerabilities-in-all-synology-products/#comment-347</link>
		<dc:creator>neeeko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's always funny to see a forum full of synology products addicted people who became suddenly blind by staring to much at them in their living room/bedroom/office...
Makes me think of people drinking and swallowing the news on mass media channels..without wondering anything about the truth and the purpose behind it. 

Hard to wake up people nowadays...keep on sleeping peeps...

You have my full support and deserved way better than that on their smelly moderated forum...

Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s always funny to see a forum full of synology products addicted people who became suddenly blind by staring to much at them in their living room/bedroom/office&#8230;<br />
Makes me think of people drinking and swallowing the news on mass media channels..without wondering anything about the truth and the purpose behind it. </p>
<p>Hard to wake up people nowadays&#8230;keep on sleeping peeps&#8230;</p>
<p>You have my full support and deserved way better than that on their smelly moderated forum&#8230;</p>
<p>Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: AliasMarlowe</title>
		<link>http://isisblogs.poly.edu/2008/04/04/multiple-vulnerabilities-in-all-synology-products/#comment-345</link>
		<dc:creator>AliasMarlowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 19:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a DS-207, and it works nicely enough on our home LAN. It's behind a firewall, and the firewall has rules explicitly preventing any connection from WAN to Synology (I don't trust the security of anything I can't configure) or from Synology to WAN (I don't like boxes calling home without my permission). So it's used as a local file server, and as a local web server for home - not internet accessible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a DS-207, and it works nicely enough on our home LAN. It&#8217;s behind a firewall, and the firewall has rules explicitly preventing any connection from WAN to Synology (I don&#8217;t trust the security of anything I can&#8217;t configure) or from Synology to WAN (I don&#8217;t like boxes calling home without my permission). So it&#8217;s used as a local file server, and as a local web server for home - not internet accessible.</p>
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		<title>By: wlof</title>
		<link>http://isisblogs.poly.edu/2008/04/04/multiple-vulnerabilities-in-all-synology-products/#comment-344</link>
		<dc:creator>wlof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 17:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I stumbled upon your blog while looking if it was possible to use dm-crypt with Synology products. I just wanted to tell you that I, too, am now delaying buying a CS407. Also, the way those two "honorary moderators" and fanboys treated you is definitely not good publicity for Synology, IMO.

It's too bad they don't allow alternative firmwares, kinda like OpenWrt for wifi routers. That would really allow to get the best of both worlds, a cool piece of hardware with open-source, up-to-date software...

Anyway, I still think I'm going to buy a CS407 (performance and feature-wise, it's still the best thing in its budget category) but only after they release a new firmware. Thanks a lot for the warning, more people should know about this!

(Sorry if I made any English mistakes, I'm not a native speaker.)

wlof</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I stumbled upon your blog while looking if it was possible to use dm-crypt with Synology products. I just wanted to tell you that I, too, am now delaying buying a CS407. Also, the way those two &#8220;honorary moderators&#8221; and fanboys treated you is definitely not good publicity for Synology, IMO.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s too bad they don&#8217;t allow alternative firmwares, kinda like OpenWrt for wifi routers. That would really allow to get the best of both worlds, a cool piece of hardware with open-source, up-to-date software&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, I still think I&#8217;m going to buy a CS407 (performance and feature-wise, it&#8217;s still the best thing in its budget category) but only after they release a new firmware. Thanks a lot for the warning, more people should know about this!</p>
<p>(Sorry if I made any English mistakes, I&#8217;m not a native speaker.)</p>
<p>wlof</p>
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		<title>By: Joachim</title>
		<link>http://isisblogs.poly.edu/2008/04/04/multiple-vulnerabilities-in-all-synology-products/#comment-342</link>
		<dc:creator>Joachim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 13:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanx for your research.

I bought some Diststations as file server and backup media. I find it quite frustrating that Synology is not updating their samba version to "recent" releases.

For me the big feature of those boxes is not the included services/applications, it's the power consumption to price to performance balance. I'll stick to my DSs (and will probably buy some more) - but they are not and will never be on the internet. In fact, in our network they live in their own security zone (Juniper/Netscreen) and run an updated version of samba (ipkg).

To me it was surprising from the very beginning, that somebody serious would put such a box "on the internet". But then again, that's what they are advertised for. In my opinion anything that runs a webserver with PHP (or any other form of cgi) is a timebomb in the hands of normal user.

I dont really share your fears about compiled CGIs (in general). Compiled or not isn't more or less secure per se. In my eyes, the biggest problem with the compiled CGIs is that one can't verify the source.

Regards,
Joachim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanx for your research.</p>
<p>I bought some Diststations as file server and backup media. I find it quite frustrating that Synology is not updating their samba version to &#8220;recent&#8221; releases.</p>
<p>For me the big feature of those boxes is not the included services/applications, it&#8217;s the power consumption to price to performance balance. I&#8217;ll stick to my DSs (and will probably buy some more) - but they are not and will never be on the internet. In fact, in our network they live in their own security zone (Juniper/Netscreen) and run an updated version of samba (ipkg).</p>
<p>To me it was surprising from the very beginning, that somebody serious would put such a box &#8220;on the internet&#8221;. But then again, that&#8217;s what they are advertised for. In my opinion anything that runs a webserver with PHP (or any other form of cgi) is a timebomb in the hands of normal user.</p>
<p>I dont really share your fears about compiled CGIs (in general). Compiled or not isn&#8217;t more or less secure per se. In my eyes, the biggest problem with the compiled CGIs is that one can&#8217;t verify the source.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Joachim</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Guido</title>
		<link>http://isisblogs.poly.edu/2008/04/04/multiple-vulnerabilities-in-all-synology-products/#comment-338</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Guido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 05:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Casper,

I'm sorry, I can't give you any recommendations as I haven't looked at any other NAS manufacturer's devices. If I do a vulnerability assessment of another NAS manufacturer, I'm likely going to look at Netgear's ReadyNAS product line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Casper,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, I can&#8217;t give you any recommendations as I haven&#8217;t looked at any other NAS manufacturer&#8217;s devices. If I do a vulnerability assessment of another NAS manufacturer, I&#8217;m likely going to look at Netgear&#8217;s ReadyNAS product line.</p>
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		<title>By: Casper</title>
		<link>http://isisblogs.poly.edu/2008/04/04/multiple-vulnerabilities-in-all-synology-products/#comment-337</link>
		<dc:creator>Casper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I followed your post very closely on the Synology forum. I do not own a Synology product and did not bother to create an account on the forum, in order to express my support for your observations. I thought that it would be obvious that your reports had to be taken seriously - which quite evidently was not so obvious, at least not to the moderators and the Synology staff.

I am sorry to see the treatment that they gave you. You have my full support.

Do you plan on reviewing any other NAS products in the future? I was very close to buying a Synology product, until I read your post. Now I am searching for another product. I have noticed your recommendation of FreeNAS, however I not sure that I want to spend the time building my own NAS. I would like a compact, sleek, silent and low power solution - and most important _secure_. 

Do you have any experience with QNAP TS209 PRO or TS209 PRO II?
Do you have any other recommendations? 

Best regards,
Casper</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I followed your post very closely on the Synology forum. I do not own a Synology product and did not bother to create an account on the forum, in order to express my support for your observations. I thought that it would be obvious that your reports had to be taken seriously - which quite evidently was not so obvious, at least not to the moderators and the Synology staff.</p>
<p>I am sorry to see the treatment that they gave you. You have my full support.</p>
<p>Do you plan on reviewing any other NAS products in the future? I was very close to buying a Synology product, until I read your post. Now I am searching for another product. I have noticed your recommendation of FreeNAS, however I not sure that I want to spend the time building my own NAS. I would like a compact, sleek, silent and low power solution - and most important _secure_. </p>
<p>Do you have any experience with QNAP TS209 PRO or TS209 PRO II?<br />
Do you have any other recommendations? </p>
<p>Best regards,<br />
Casper</p>
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		<title>By: SFS presentation about Synology at ISIS Blogs</title>
		<link>http://isisblogs.poly.edu/2008/04/04/multiple-vulnerabilities-in-all-synology-products/#comment-312</link>
		<dc:creator>SFS presentation about Synology at ISIS Blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 04:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I summed up everything that happened with Synology and everything I have continued working on since my previous article was written in a deck of slides at the weekly SFS [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I summed up everything that happened with Synology and everything I have continued working on since my previous article was written in a deck of slides at the weekly SFS [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Guido</title>
		<link>http://isisblogs.poly.edu/2008/04/04/multiple-vulnerabilities-in-all-synology-products/#comment-311</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Guido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forget where I read this, but in the new world of PR, it is really bad to do anything negative on a Friday. It doesn't get lost by the media because they don't have time to write something up about it, and it isn't old news by the time Monday comes around. Rather what happens is that the internet talks about it on Saturday and Sunday while you're not working and you come back with a real mess in your hands on Monday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forget where I read this, but in the new world of PR, it is really bad to do anything negative on a Friday. It doesn&#8217;t get lost by the media because they don&#8217;t have time to write something up about it, and it isn&#8217;t old news by the time Monday comes around. Rather what happens is that the internet talks about it on Saturday and Sunday while you&#8217;re not working and you come back with a real mess in your hands on Monday.</p>
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